Pérez told me that Las Gundiñas is quite unpredictable, and the 2019 La Vizcaína Las Gundiñas is more Rhône-like and juicy, with notes of straw and hay and also a note of iron. It's 13.5% alcohol. They always ferment with 10% full clusters and have the same maceration, but they have lowered the time in barrel as the wines stay in the fermentation oak vats until February and then are put in 500-liter and larger barrels and bottled before the next harvest. They are introducing oak foudres at La Vizcaína, and if it goes well, they might move the whole project to them. There are some 5,000 bottles of this. They have purchased more vineyards in most of the crus.